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Tuesday, March 27, 2007

Efforts to fund the TFG from sources within Somalia seem almost futile.

Somalia: Mogadishu traders to suspend import and export at the port

10 Comments:

Blogger Flavian said...

ANCAP RULZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8:32 AM  
Blogger Gavin said...

Steve, what are your thoughts on the 'central government' of Somalia being a corporation? I threw together a mock corporate charter
here.

3:43 PM  
Blogger Steve said...

I don't think it would work. I think that the militias they currently have are the only government they need. Also, there's no rational reason for implementing a visa system other than to inconvenience people and restrict their freedom of movement unnecessarily.

6:29 AM  
Blogger Steve said...

...and to fleece them, of course.

6:30 AM  
Blogger Gavin said...

Consider this. What would happen if there is no central data store of Natural Law, such as a non-profit corp called Somalia-Inc? Wouldn't the nation fragment into dozens of mini-states (to provide law guidance) and cease to exist, similar to Yugoslavia? A Somali would then be forced to pledge allegiance to a state, only a smaller one.

Now, let's say the beauty of AnCap 'Government' is that it can be ignored by the individual as s/he pleases. Wouldn't the most perfect AnCap overseer be a voluntary corporation which provides an impartial database of historical law+property owenership-- so s/he doesn't have to rely on a smaller government to do so?

And what about the dealings with the rest of the world? Even if Somalia embraced AnCap, the rest of the world is comprised of Republics and Monarchies. Should there be a common means of dealing with the outside world, until the day comes where every nation is AnCap?

As always, I look forward to reading what you think.

2:08 PM  
Blogger Gavin said...

I believe Somalians want to remain Somalians--meaning I think they want the nation of Somalia to remain. So to keep a nation intact, isn't it necessary at the bare minimum to provide a simple database of Somalian Law, which evolves are the people use and update it? No politicians would be involved in this configuration, and every Somalian citizen would be considered an part-owner of the corporation. In other words, a single Somalian would have more power than the government of Somalia. Isn't that a beautiful solution?

2:18 PM  
Blogger Gavin said...

The more I think about it, the more I realize how stupid it would be to suggest a single corporation to 'safeguard' the historical data of a nation's law. It would seem only natural for many such corporations and private individuals to have their own web sites to store this information. Then the average Somalian would use Google-Law, or something like that, to look up verdicts and judges in their area.

I figured that eventually, a nation would create a single entity to store law information. But now I think this database could easily be stored in many interlocking sites, which continually compete with each other for patronage.

3:31 AM  
Blogger Steve said...

That's an interesting train of thought.

4:01 AM  
Blogger Gavin said...

"That's an interesting train of thought."

...that's all you have to say? Hmm maybe i should comment elsewhere

8:09 AM  
Blogger Steve said...

I thought that would be an appropriate way to end this comment page, since it appeared that you had realized that your original idea was unworkable.

There isn't going to be any kind of uniform constitution or law code in Somalia unless one group takes over, and we've seen how problematic that has been.

I think that when people find themselves in a near-anarchic situation, they tend to want to keep things local, though there might be a market niche for companies to sell case history information that covers a large geographic area.

11:30 AM  

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